tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:/discussions/questions/759-thunderbird-with-tenfourfoxTenFourFox: Discussion 2014-09-14T00:44:49Ztag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-12T12:16:52Z2014-03-12T12:18:11ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Itascasmall, we don't make Thunderbird and don't offer
downloads. The last Thunderbird version for PPC Macs was 3.1
(<a href=
"ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/3.1.20/mac/">ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/3.1.20/mac/</a>),
but this version is outdated and has security risks.</p>
<p>You can use Tenfourbird instead. You can download it at the
Tenfourbird Sourcefourge site: <a href=
"http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird/">http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird/</a></p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-12T18:11:28Z2014-03-12T18:11:28ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Chris,</p>
<p>Ah, hah! That must be what I saw and in my haste to get going
on<br>
TenFourFox, I forgot the details. I was looking for your
equivalent, so<br>
TenFourBird is what I want. Thank you very much for responding
promptly.</p>
<p>It's so great to be able to use my perfectly good Mac on the
Internet -- my<br>
service provider thought I had to have a bunch of WildBlue files
loaded<br>
onto Mac when the satellite service was installed. It worked fine
on the<br>
Dell XP, but not on Mac! An Apple Store salesman told me my G5 --
at 10.3.9<br>
and 6+ years old at the time -- needed 10.4, but that it was too
old to<br>
upgrade, and I'd have to buy a new model. With the Dell, I wasn't
about to<br>
discard the G5 just for the 'net! I didn't question the advice. I
removed<br>
the WildBlue files from Mac, but didn't try it again until this
February<br>
and it worked fine. Except that Safari was obviously too old. Apple
sent<br>
me the 10.4.3 installation disks and, then, I was able to update to
10.4.11<br>
so I could download TenFourFox.</p>
<p>Your Web site informed me about the dangers of using Safari and
Adobe. I'm<br>
glad I had not updated Adobe when I went online! And, I was glad to
see<br>
that TenFourFox disables Java. Wondering about disabling Safari or
just<br>
not clicking-on-it....</p>
<p>I haven't done a lot of browsing, yet, because I want to be sure
I'm safe.<br>
My local tech says I could download Avast, so I thought I'd do
that. I<br>
bought Norton's anti-virus program several years ago, but never
installed<br>
it, so wondered if I should do so now and look for updates
online... I<br>
don't actually know what protection I might have already with the
10.4.11.<br>
My tech says I don't need to worry about it because he's never had
a<br>
problem with his 10.4 and 10.2 Macs. But...?</p>
<p>Thank you again for your help, and for providing programs for
our systems!<br>
If I'd known about you sooner, I would have fixed my G3 iMac
instead of<br>
donating it to the local school! (My first Mac was a 128k in
August, 1984!)</p>
<p>Itasca Small</p></div>itascasmalltag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-12T18:39:57Z2014-03-12T18:42:01ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>I wouldn't use Safari on 10.4 or 10.5 anymore on a regular
basis. You can just drag it out of you Dock. Don't delete the
application, though, just make sure it's not set as your default
browser. Safari is too much interwoven with the OS (which doesn't
receive security updates anymore) – just like IE on Windows.
If you want to be up-to-date security-wise, TenFourFox is the way
to go, and if you need plugins, use Camino or Opera as a secondary
browser.</p>
<p>Regarding antivirus software, it's debated whether you need it
at all on a Mac. I don't use it and I haven't had a single problem
with malware in the >ten years I've been using Mac OS X. If you
feel safer with it, install it, but I can't recommend anything.
Some people I trust recommend ClamXav (<a href=
"http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#tiger">http://www.clamxav.com/download.php#tiger</a>).</p>
<p>The most effective protection you have on PPC 10.4.11 is a) a
web browser that's up-to-date, b) a robust OS that can largely look
after itself, and c) the fact that virtually all of the few malware
programs for Mac OS X are Intel only :-)</p>
<p>Glad to be able to help – I hope your G5 will serve you
well for many years to come.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-12T19:49:45Z2014-03-12T19:49:45ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Chris,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>I'll follow your instructions regarding Safari. And, avoid it
with<br>
diligence. I will also remember the plugin advice regarding Camino
and<br>
Opera! Don't know what I may need yet, at this point. I do want to
add-on<br>
the video programs soon. Oh, thanks for your notes also, warning
about<br>
Flash!</p>
<p>With my low-knowledge-level, I didn't realize the browser itself
provided<br>
security! Since I plan to use TenFourFox -- updating whenever it is
advised<br>
-- and now possibly the other two, I am going to avoid obsessing
about security at all. I know I've always heard Macs are safe, but,
got confused<br>
when I had to read your blog entries too fast. I did note that it
seemed<br>
the Intel system was the most vulnerable. I'm going to assume that
the<br>
"robust OS" is my 10.4.11 working in TenFourFox...</p>
<p>My local tech, Matt at Macmedia in Scottsdale, Arizona, says he
can upgrade<br>
it to 10.5, if I should find that I need it. But, as I am an older
woman,<br>
I'd rather not have to transport my heavy G5 to his facility! (He
is the<br>
one who recommended I try TenFourFox and gave me your link.) I'm
glad to<br>
know your experience is the same as his, so I am not going to worry
about<br>
it, but appreciate and will keep the name and link for ClamXav, in
case<br>
something should give me cause to act.</p>
<p>Please forgive me, I sometimes overthink things... On the
TenFourBird<br>
download page, it lists Windows systems and updating all drivers.
Do I<br>
need to understand this, or can I just click the "Start Download"
button<br>
and go from there?</p>
<p>I really appreciate your help! Thanks for the kind words
regarding my G5<br>
serving me well. I know that, as a "Mac Person" yourself, you
can<br>
empathize with my delight in being able to use it more fully.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Itasca Small</p></div>itascasmalltag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-13T07:23:27Z2014-03-13T07:23:27ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>You're welcome. You can upgrade to 10.5 yourself with a 10.5
install disc (used from Ebay) without carrying your Mac to the
shop, but this is only necessary if you want to run software (such
as Spotify or VLC video player 2.x) which requires 10.5 or newer.
Otherwiese, 10.4 is perfectly fine, I run it myself on two of my
three Macs. You can find a very nice PPC software repository over
at <a href=
"http://ppcarchive.dyniform.net/software.html">http://ppcarchive.dyniform.net/software.html</a>.</p>
<p>The correct download at Tenfourbird for your G5 is
"TenfourbirdG5-24.3.0.zip" (go to <a href=
"http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird">http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird</a>
and scroll down to "Latest Files").</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-03-13T17:49:37Z2014-03-13T17:49:37ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Chris,</p>
<p>I'm certain all of this valuable information will make my Mac
Internet<br>
experience much easier, and enjoyable!</p>
<p>Thank you so much for all your help!</p>
<p>Itasca Small</p></div>itascasmalltag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-09-13T23:52:44Z2014-09-13T23:52:44ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Chris,</p>
<p>I've been using and enjoying TenFourFoxG5 and TenfourbirdG5 for
months<br>
now, since you helped me get started with TenfourbirdG5---thanks,
again!</p>
<p>I've upgraded both programs when alerted, with no problems.
Until I<br>
upgraded to TenfourbirdG5 31.1.0, the other day. I could not get
the<br>
"Reply," "Reply All," and "Forward" buttons to work. I didn't try
the other three buttons. I was just glad I could retrieve the
24.7.0<br>
version from the Trash, where I had just boldly placed it! Then, I
just<br>
got a message for 24.8.0, so I upgraded to it.</p>
<p>I could not figure-out how to get to the right page to report
the<br>
31.1.0, glitch, and by now, I thought you would probably have
already<br>
found it anyway. I hope that is the case and that a correction will
be<br>
available soon. I thought perhaps the 24.8.0 might be a stop-gap
fix<br>
while you work on 31.1.0. . . ?</p>
<p>Thank you for your great work for our Mac Community.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Itasca Small</p></div>itascasmalltag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-09-14T00:20:17Z2014-09-14T00:20:17ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Tenfourbird is made by someone independent of this project.
Although they use TenFourFox code as part of their work, we don't
actually maintain or issue it. You can ask your question of the
maintainer through that project's own support forums: <a href=
"http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird/forums/">http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/tenfourbird/forums/</a></p></div>Cameron Kaisertag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/320454642014-09-14T00:44:49Z2014-09-14T00:44:49ZThunderbird with TenFourFox<div><p>Thank you!</p></div>itascasmall