YouTube Video Problem

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Stefano

20 Sep, 2018 06:09 PM

Good evening,
I have a problem with Tenfourfox, I have a Powe Mac G5, 2 CPU 2Ghz, 1GB RAM, with OS X 10.4.11. Since a few days ago youtube does not let me see the videos. The black screen appears on the screen with a message "the browser does not currently recognize any of the available video formats". I've tried various versions of Tenfourfox but the problem remains. Please help me, this problem suddenly appeared.

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 20 Sep, 2018 07:12 PM

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    YouTube seems to have removed VP8 support for a lot of old videos (or: our VP8 implementation is somehow broken?) – the solution for now is: Go to Preferences>TenFourFox, then turn on VP9 support by checking "Enable MSE/media quality options (slower, if available)"

  2. 2 Posted by Stefano on 20 Sep, 2018 09:40 PM

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    Thank you so much for your help, with this option now it goes. so is it a problem that has come to everyone in these days? will it be solved?

  3. 3 Posted by unioncityblue on 21 Sep, 2018 01:52 AM

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    OS X 10.4.11
    eMac - 1.42 Ghz PowerPC G4
    1 GB RAM
    TenFourFox 38.9.0
    Flash workaround installed years ago. Lol

    Hello folks.

    As Stefano notes above, Youtube now (a few days ago) presents with...
    Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. Click for questions about HTML5 video.

    As a kinda strange workaround, if I click on a random video in the right-hand scrolling window and let it play for a few moments, I can get the original video to play by clicking TenFourFox's back-button.

    It unfortunately doesn't work for all videos.
    It also looks like... Enable MSE/media quality options (slower, if available) is not available in TenFourFox 38.9.0 preferences!

    Chris Pederick's User Agent Switcher 0.7.3 has no effect.

    Can I alter anything in about:config

    Greg.

  4. Support Staff 4 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 21 Sep, 2018 02:38 AM

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    Greg, 38.9.0 does not support MSE. You'll have to update.

    It does indeed simply look like MSE is now a requirement, so this will be preffed on by default in FPR10 (it can still be turned off if users require it).

  5. 5 Posted by unioncityblue on 21 Sep, 2018 10:48 PM

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    Thanks Cameron.

    I will do some comparative testing (in and out of safe-mode) of FPR 9 against TenFourFox 38.9.0

    TenFourFox 38.9.0 was very stable for me for the last couple of years, with the vast majority of web-pages rendering quickly along with the aid of Giorgio Maone's NoScript 5.1.8.4

    Preliminary: Buffering and Youtube's choice of auto speed is a bit sketchy.

    Thank you for all your hard work, it's very much appreciated.

    Talk in a few days.
    Greg.

  6. 6 Posted by FredM on 22 Sep, 2018 10:03 PM

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    I've gotten the same problem and MSE works, but it's too slow to listen to music; it keeps pausing with the rotating circle, even after the gray line at the bottom seems to indicate that it's loaded all the way.

  7. 7 Posted by FredMm on 23 Sep, 2018 02:19 AM

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    Without MSE yputube claims that my browser (10.4 fox 7450, downloaded yesterdat) doesn't support html5. Why?

  8. 8 Posted by rafaelrosa81 on 26 Sep, 2018 03:22 AM

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    Hello, guys. Taking advantage of the space of this post, I come to ask a question: Is it possible to watch hangouts live on YouTube? I own a PowerBook G4 with OS X 10.4.11 and Power PC 1.5 Ghz processor with 1GB of memory. I have already installed two plugin programs - Perian and AVC1 Decoder and nothing. About recorded videos, I can watch them normally. On the HTML5 YouTube page, the only bugs it shows that are not installed are H.264 and MSE & H.264. Thanks in advance for your feedback.

  9. Support Staff 9 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 29 Sep, 2018 05:59 PM

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    Rafaelrosa81, if hangouts require H.264 (even though I wasn't able to confirm this on any Google help page) you're out of luck. Perian and other QT plugins work in QuickTime Player, but not in TenFourFox. The only chance I see for PPC users is to update to 10.5, install Safari with Leopard Webkit (which has H.264/MP4 hardware support) and try if it works.

    Cameron, while checking this I noticed that Safari 5/LWP doesn't support MSE but still plays H.264 videos.

  10. 10 Posted by Joachim on 07 Oct, 2018 10:59 AM

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    Dear Chris, thank you so much for your help solving this YouTube problem. BTW, is it recommended to keep the checkbox "Enable MSE/media quality options (slower, if available)" always checked, not only for YT?

  11. Support Staff 11 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 07 Oct, 2018 11:10 AM

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    Joachim, you can keep it checked, it's likely to become checked by default in the next browser update anyway.

  12. Support Staff 12 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 07 Oct, 2018 10:54 PM

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    Yes, it will be the default in FPR10.

  13. 13 Posted by Terry on 30 Nov, 2018 09:00 AM

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    I've searched TenFourFox preferences and have no "enable Optionsw" as mentioned.
    I also tried to find an upgrade to my version of tenFour Fox and struck out.

  14. Support Staff 14 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 30 Nov, 2018 04:34 PM

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    You're using TFF 38.x, which doesn't have this preference. Please download the most recent version here:
    http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/
    If you need help determining the version for your processor, just ask :-)

  15. 15 Posted by cabassa on 30 Nov, 2018 08:03 PM

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    Hi Chris,

    THANK YOU so much.
    I used Terminal to determine my processor and successfully upgraded.
    Whithout having to alter any preferences I am able once again to
    watch and listen to Youtube music videos. I was able to watch all
    Youtube movies, but a few weeks ago the ability to go to videos from
    desk top links and all such links to music videos ceased.

    I think I need to do a restart though as the new addition is causing
    delays (spinning pinwheel) in other programs like this email . . .
    and also I should do some maintenance like repairing permissions.

    Terry

  16. 16 Posted by cabassa on 30 Nov, 2018 09:08 PM

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    Well it worked for a bit to play a few Youtube music videos, but not anymore.
    the only difference now is that all music videos show up on the right
    now, whereas they weren't before.

    I have a few categories of music video links that I dragged into
    folders on my desktop.
    I used to be able to click on any of those links and have the music video play.

    Also I don't see that Enable preference that people on the discussion
    forum said to turn on.

    My processor in this G4 eMac is a 7450.

    Thanks,
    Terry

    Hi Chris,

    THANK YOU so much.
    I used Terminal to determine my processor and successfully upgraded.
    Whithout having to alter any preferences I am able once again to
    watch and listen to Youtube music videos. I was able to watch all
    Youtube movies, but a few weeks ago the ability to go to videos from
    desk top links and all such links to music videos ceased.

    I think I need to do a restart though as the new addition is causing
    delays (spinning pinwheel) in other programs like this email . . .
    and also I should do some maintenance like repairing permissions.

    Terry

  17. Support Staff 17 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 30 Nov, 2018 09:43 PM

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    Please post a link to one of your videos and also a screenshot of the browser playing the video.

    The preference is already enabled. If you you want to check, it's at
    TenFourFox Menu > Preferences > TenFourFox (left sidebar) > MediaSource

  18. 18 Posted by Terry on 01 Dec, 2018 02:33 AM

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    Chris,
    I'm thinking that the version I downloaded, was the same as what I had.
    This one I downloaded that worked for a short while today is 38.5.0. . . . but after selection my CPU type, this is what the recommended download was and so I went for it.

    I'll try the "latest version" link above that you posted.

    Thanks,
    Terry

  19. 19 Posted by Terry on 01 Dec, 2018 02:45 AM

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    Chris,

    I think I've found the problem. The unzipped file TFF download and the new Application version 45.19.0
    is sitting in my "Downloads" folder, but the old version 38.5.0 is still there in Applications.

    I got rid of the old version application ICON in my dock in favor of the new, but it has reverted to continuing to use the old Version 38.x. sitting in Applications.

    So what should I do?
    Drag the old version 38.x out of Applications to TRAsH and drag version 45..x into Applications in its place . . . . or do I need to do an "Uninstall"?

    Thanks,

  20. Support Staff 20 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 01 Dec, 2018 06:49 AM

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    Drag the old version 38.x out of Applications to TRAsH and drag version 45..x into Applications in its place
    -> That's exacly what you need to do.

  21. 21 Posted by terry on 01 Dec, 2018 08:35 AM

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    Thanks,

    That's what i did while waiting for an answer. Dragged and buried the old version in a Storage folder first, and put the new version into Applications.

    Well tube music videos play and so do Tube movies now, but video loading and browser speed is woefully slow; it's like back in the days of OS 8. The previous TFF was actually playing all videos faster but music videos ceased to function.

    What are the memory requirements of TFF?
    I do know I need to max out the RAM on this old 1.5 GB eMac.
    I'm ashamed to say I only have a measly 768 MB of Ram.

    Any tips on how to speed up the frames per second and the speed of loading a page?

  22. Support Staff 22 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 01 Dec, 2018 06:23 PM

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    Please note that because of the age of 38.x and the later features it didn't support, substantial portions of pages probably weren't even executing or enabled.

  23. 23 Posted by Terry on 01 Dec, 2018 07:49 PM

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    My pages WERE fully loading with the older 38 version.
    My first attempt to load a YouTube page today, yielded the black screen-no support pane and everything on the page was in grey blocks. Here's a snap.

  24. 24 Posted by Terry on 01 Dec, 2018 08:03 PM

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    Sorry, false alarm.
    MSE Preference just needed to be selected. Pages fully loading again.

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