[SOLVED] Near-Constant 'Crashes-On-Exit' and VERY slow/unusable Captchas on TFF7450....

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Adam Albrec

23 Jul, 2017 09:09 PM

CK: A follow-up to my near-constant 'Crashes-on-Exit' and slow/unusable catpchas issues with TFF7450 over the last year: After removing the "Tab-Groups" addon (that replaced formal T.G. support in Firefox), the problems seem to have vanished!!!

Who Knew??

BTW. with Wordpress's new 'sign-in to comment' scheme, even after signing-in to wordpress.com, it is nearly impossible to comment the TFF Dev-Blog. The sign-in Cookies just don't seem to carry-over you you get stranded on this page (see attached). This never seems to go anywhere.

  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 23 Jul, 2017 09:15 PM

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    I'm not sure what to say to the Wordpress issue - I don't have a Wordpress account, so I can't verify. Is it still the same way on a clean profile?

    As far as the TG addon being responsible, good news that you found the cause and this might be precautionary for people wanting to play with it. However, even though we support add-ons on a "best effort" basis, it still bugs me a bit that you found the browser was unstable with it (it might not work, to be sure, but even chrome JavaScript shouldn't crash things), so I'll look into seeing if I can reproduce the same issues when I have some spare cycles.

  2. 2 Posted by Adam Albrec on 23 Jul, 2017 09:24 PM

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    I hear you completely. I just stumbled across it through not using it much, and even with no tabs stored in it, the removal, coupled with the addons and such in place all seem to have come back into alignment.

    As for the wordpress thing - it is happening everywhere and there are lots of reports: probably NOT fixable - might just be worth making a mention.

    BTW - have you also played with the disabling of IPv6? AMAZING how it perks up PPC. And since we are generally not needing backend update support and the stuff usually - pushed to it, there doesn't seem to be much downside.

    On 7/23/17 2:15 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

  3. 3 Posted by Adam Albrec on 06 Aug, 2017 03:44 PM

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    BTW: Now that I've got that tab-group stuff behind me, and can really check out the browser without fear of crashes, am shocked how good it is now. Sites like 500px that are super Javascript heavy are really usable, and Flickr is like butter (even on my DP G4-streteched over two screens).

    Eventhough it isn't quite as fast at focused tasks as our Intel Quad iMacs at work (obviously), it is strikingly more responsive much of the time.

    The Intels have a 'hurry-up and wait' quality about that that really puts me off (even my Brother's big Mac Pro takes about 3 seconds to paint-in icons when you open a Finder window).

    The other day on my G4, I had TFF open with 24-tabs, iTunes playing music, Photoshop CS4 with a 5000 pixel image, TenFourBird and 2 FoxBoxes (with my Yahoo & Google accounts) - AND it was Quite Usable! Even Google Docks Works (though that is a bit choppy at times with big Spreadsheets).


    P.S. I know the SSD and NewerTek SATA cards are helping too, but just shows how peppy PPC can still be.

    On 7/23/17 2:15 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

  4. 4 Posted by Adam Albrec on 27 Sep, 2017 08:56 PM

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    Hey C.K. Can't believe how well the system is working with your recent
    changes. A web customer wants me to use Slack all the time, and it's
    notoriously heavy even on modern systems, but once it initially caches,
    I can let it sit in the background with minnimal hit on the system's
    performance (in a FoxBox).

    Also, had wanted to ask, as you are likely one of the only people who
    would know the answer, is there a way to regress the less stable parts
    of OS 9.2.2 back to 8.6? I've gone the other way and pulled 9
    extentions into 8.6 for things like making the DVD player work better,
    but am not sure what the downside might be going back. Now I've read
    that the MDDs use a special "Mac OS Rom" to deal with the faster system
    bus. Do you know if other parts might be able to be regressed for added
    stability? I love classic but OS9 just has a lot of crash/lockup
    problems compared to 8.6, from my experience. Any ideas on this very
    much appreciated.

    Adam :0)

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 28 Sep, 2017 02:38 AM

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    Thanks for the kind word. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your second question. I mostly use 9.1 and 9.2.2 instead of 8.6, and I haven't noticed any particular instability relative to 8.6, but I mostly use them on Old World Macs (except my 9.2.2 MDD).

  6. 6 Posted by Adam Albrec on 28 Sep, 2017 03:00 AM

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    Thanks anyway. I have an MDD, but it's possible I just have to go back to do some 'Conflict Catching'. Forgot what a crap thing that is to do (almost as bad as tracing down Kernel Panics!!)

    Oh, and while not a Mac or even a computer, you might enjoy this - found a vintage 1951 Kodak Signet 35 (have read its 'Ektar' lens is the finest American made 35mm lens ever made) and WOW can this little $20 camera do some nice work... https://www.flickr.com/photos/artphotodude/albums/72157687681871646 and it is CUTE as a bug's ear - TINY little jewel only 5" wide - see attached (BUT is heavy enough to defend yourself with in a cage fight!)

    Thanks Again!

    On 9/27/17 7:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:

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