tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:/discussions/problems/8338-version-4560-g5-crashingTenFourFox: Discussion 2018-01-26T16:51:49Ztag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-01-21T22:01:25Z2017-01-21T22:01:26Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>Update:<br>
I found an old T4F 38.10.0 version on my HD and devoted most of an
afternoon on Facebook to annoy mindless humans I've never met with
my pretense of exceptional wisdom while clicking on the superfluous
links they've shared with the world to demonstrate their own
"special" vapidity (it was only for testing purposes, mind
you...)</p>
<p>That's a stable build - no crashes yet; hardware is fine.</p></div>paultag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-01-22T08:13:22Z2017-01-22T08:13:22Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>I'm sorry, I cannot reproduce these crashes on Facebook at all.
I use FB a lot, with TFF 45.x, of course. The last time it crashed
according to my crash logs was in August 2016. We haven't had
reports from other users about FB crashes with TFF 45.6 so far.</p>
<p>Can you describe in some more detail what you do on FB that
makes the browser crash? I.e., what do you click on or which action
you take that makes it crash reliably? From what you described so
far, it seems very hard or impossible to fix the problem.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-01-22T22:44:06Z2017-01-22T22:44:07Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>Thanks for the quick reply.<br>
I'll relaunch 45.6 and try to note if there's anything in
particular that causes crashing. It seemed random.</p>
<p>If this helps: over the years, T4F versions have occasionally
(rarely) crashed on me, but each time a window would open advising
me that it had "unexpectedly quit" with options to relaunch... this
version simply vanishes, with no crash window, though system and
other open apps are just fine.</p>
<p>FB and many web sites linked to posts busily load extraneous
content (ads!) on the side; I suspected something there might have
been the problem? Despite 4 quits in a few hours under 45.6, 38.10
hasn't quit at all in two days of use...</p>
<p>HOWEVER - as several cap fails (and replacements) were in the
RAM section, and machine's initial fail symptoms suggested RAM
failure, I was (am still) concerned that:<br>
- a block of RAM may have been damaged, causing crashes when
accessed by an app with high memory load. - or that my soldering
skills are off, and there's an intermittent cold joint there.</p>
<p>I have seen one kernel panic today (I think it was related to
RAM) while I was streaming music and using T4F 38.10. Meanwhile,
I'm looking for some memory and processor intensive things to put
some stress on the machine to rule out hardware issues.</p>
<p>I'll keep you posted.</p></div>Paultag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-01-25T19:23:10Z2017-01-25T19:23:10Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>You could also try Apple's hardware test on the install CDs or
DVD that came with the Mac originally. The RAM test takes ages but
(from my limited experience) seems to find bad RAM modules pretty
reliably. It also tests for motherboard integrity and other stuff
that could cause your problems.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-01-26T14:24:39Z2017-01-26T14:24:40Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>Thanks Chris</p>
<p>Despite no crash window, T4F logs were actually updated.
Problems with both app and kp appear memory-related, but I've been
unable to reliably reproduce a crash with T4F 38.10 running
concurrent with any other RAM-intensive apps.</p>
<p>Bought used, so don't have cds (i've been recloning drives for
... ever).</p>
<p>I'm going with a "gut instinct," big dose of hope, and ordered
new RAM - pretty cheap these days. I noticed the pair are different
manufacture, maybe effected by cap damage differently? I'll repost
once it's in and I've tested again.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I have two other long-dead ppc imacs and a new set of
tools ... thinking of taking a crack at them. Thanks, again, for
the programming support that makes it a worthwhile effort!</p></div>Paultag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-02-04T16:19:17Z2017-02-04T16:19:19Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>Chris-<br>
Wanted to follow up - now that I've installed new RAM, 45.6 has
been running for days with no problems... machine feels
hyper-responsive, too ... my imagination?</p></div>Paultag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082017-02-06T15:09:12Z2017-02-06T15:09:12Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>I don't think it's your imagination. Glad to hear it's working
reliably now.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082018-01-26T16:38:11Z2018-01-26T16:38:12Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>I am also having problems with Facebook crashing. V5 of Tenfourfox is worse than V4.x.<br>
The Mac is a Quad G5 and it runs everything else fine, and I use it as a Photoshop workstation and is quite reliable with that.<br>
Any suggestions? It only crashes on Facebook.</p></div>Jake Purchestag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/417921082018-01-26T16:51:47Z2018-01-26T16:51:47Zversion 45.6.0, G5 crashing<div><p>Jake, this is <a href="https://tenfourfox.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/8490-facebook-like-causes-lockup">https://tenfourfox.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/8490-facebook...</a></p>
<p>For new issues, please open new tickets so that people subscribed to solved issues don't have to follow along on the new one.</p></div>Cameron Kaiser