YouTube No Longer Works
I recently "updated" to whatever the latest version of TenFourFox is, and I can no longer even watch YouTube videos! Am I doing something wrong, or what?
Meanwhile, I guess I'll try to find a download of the previous version, which at least worked, albeit slower...
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Support Staff 1 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 30 Dec, 2013 07:19 AM
Hello MDH, YouTube should work in TenFourFox 24 using HTML5 video. You can switch YouTube to always use HTML5 when possibe here: http://www.youtube.com/html5
Please also read the release notes, section "TenFourFox no longer supports plugins or Flash" http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/ReleaseNotes2420. This explains why some videos that require the Flash plugin can't be watched in the browser, but can be watched using the QuickTime Enabler or the MacTubes Enabler.
If you can watch no videos at all, can you give me the error message(s) that appear?
2 Posted by JohnnyWebbs on 30 Dec, 2013 07:34 PM
Thank you, I will look into those options when I get a chance!
Mark
3 Posted by John Covert on 31 Dec, 2013 10:23 PM
Videos on the YouTube site itself rarely (if ever) work even after selecting the HTML5 option in YouTube preference,, but this embed code works. Inscrutable. Click on the "watch on YouTube" link and you get "TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content" and then it changes to "The Adobe Flash Player is required for video playback" and only the audio plays.
YouTube
Support Staff 4 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 06 Jan, 2014 06:59 PM
John, what do you refer to with "this embed code"?
HTML5 video on YT works if the video has no ads (meaning Flash only) and has had enough viewers to finally get converted to webm. (H.264 conversion seems to be done right away during the upload, but webm not in all cases).
5 Posted by John Covert on 07 Jan, 2014 05:01 PM
I thought I included the embed code in my post. This time I'll leave
off the angle brackets in case something in the system removed the
code.
iframe class=youtube-player type=text/html width=960 height=585
src=http://www.youtube.com/embed/YouTubeID?wmode=opaque&autoplay=1
frameborder=0
That always works in TenFourFox for all videos on YouTube, even
the ones which don't play directly on the YouTube site. Very, very
few are playing on the YouTube site for me.
Here's an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mw37d8LQw
Nothing at the URL itself, but plays fine in a page with the
embed code.
I created a version of the embed with javascript so that I can quickly
paste the YouTube ID into a window and make it run. I've attached
that as the file youtube.html -- invoke it as
file:///path/youtube.html?v=44mw37d8LQw
Maybe someone who knows how to write add-ons could figure out how
to twiddle the youtube html as it arrives and change it to be this.
It really has been informative to see how much Flash is out there;
I find that I have to open at least half of all sites that I go to
in Safari now.
Regards/john
Support Staff 6 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 07 Jan, 2014 05:16 PM
John, thanks for all the info. This sound very interesting for a potential add-on. But: I can't reproduce the problem to begin with – the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mw37d8LQw plays perfectly fine for me (TFF 24.2.0).
There must be something going on at YouTube that we don't understand. Can you give me some more examples that don't play on your system/in your country/for whatever reason and the exact wording of the error message?
7 Posted by John Covert on 07 Jan, 2014 06:26 PM
It really is almost everything. I just went to the main YouTube page and
picked one of the "popular" videos. I took three snapshots: Picture 2 is
the first, with "TenFourFox does not support plugins for this content.",
then Picture 3 with a black screen, then Picture 3 with "The Adobe Flash
Player is required...". It does not change again after this.
That one is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3jA40arq9Y
Here's one that did work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2aQf8Lb5M
Failed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji3vKoO8_Hs
Failed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4K5OyA7cQ
Failed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzmcO0dpBpM
I am in the USA. Some or all of the accesses may be via IPv6.
Regards/john
Support Staff 8 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 07 Jan, 2014 07:17 PM
The ones that don't work in your last post all require Flash. It's YT's decision to not offer monetarized videos as HTML5. There's nothing we can do about this (except using the QuickTime Enabler or MacTubes Enabler or a download site/extension to watch it offline).
I need examples that don't require Flash but still don't work.
9 Posted by John Covert on 07 Jan, 2014 07:44 PM
But every one of them works with the embed code.
/john
Support Staff 10 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 07 Jan, 2014 08:26 PM
Interesting. Your youtube.html file doesn't work for me, though. Can you zip it before you attach it? Tender seems to mess with it.
11 Posted by John Covert on 07 Jan, 2014 08:32 PM
Try just doing wget http://www6.covert.org/youtube.html
Feel free to access it from there for testing -- just don't post the
address publicly, I can't handle the load of the whole world
accessing my server.
e.g. http://www6.covert.org/youtube.html?v=i3jA40arq9Y
/john
Support Staff 12 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 07 Jan, 2014 08:49 PM
Yes, this works. Nice. So YT doesn't force ads on embedded videos. This could indeed be made into an extension to circumvent the Flash requirement.
Support Staff 13 Posted by Cameron Kaiser on 08 Jan, 2014 04:13 AM
It's possible, though this is completely different and relies on the browser itself to handle the video, which is so far obviously not as performant as other solutions like MacTubes. This is probably something to be looked at after we've made a decision about GStreamer and how Mozilla will implement H.264 support.
14 Posted by Gil on 11 Jan, 2014 06:24 PM
I don't know what any of the repliers are talking about. I've NEVER had a problem viewing ANY youtube video!! Now, with the upgrade, I can't see a single one. I was soooo happy with the upgrade until a few minutes. The repliers suggestions don't work at all. I'm in the USA if that means anything.
Support Staff 15 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 11 Jan, 2014 06:55 PM
Gil, does this video of my cat work for you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czvsSqg7HwE
16 Posted by Gil on 11 Jan, 2014 06:58 PM
Yes sir!!!!!!!! Are we on to something? :)
...and (sorry to be annoying) would it help me on mp3skull, 'cos it doesn't work either.
Support Staff 17 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 11 Jan, 2014 07:05 PM
Alright, HMTL5 video works. For everything else, please read comment 2 in this thread (https://tenfourfox.tenderapp.com/discussions/problems/555-youtube-n...).
I don't know about mp3skull, if it uses Flash or another plugin (QuickTime?) it won't work.
18 Posted by Gil on 11 Jan, 2014 07:15 PM
I understand now. I was just having problems trying to play a particular video I had just looked up. It still won't play, but the three videos I tried on YT's main page played without a problem. Thanks so much!!
Yes, I think mp3skull uses quicktime. It didn't work in the previous edition either, so no big deal. Are there any similar music players that work with T4F? Not that big a deal, but it'd be good to know. Thanks again!!
Gil
Support Staff 19 Posted by Chris (chtrusch... on 11 Jan, 2014 07:40 PM
You're welcome.
Web music players aren't really my division, maybe someone else has suggestions.
20 Posted by soron on 14 Oct, 2014 08:24 AM
I Receive this error message when playing youtube videos in ff28 on winxpsp3.Befor youtube didnt gave problems.Error message is below,
Task Queue failed at step 5:Playlist could not be loaded:Playlist file did not contain a valid playlist. plz help youtube users solve this problem.
Regards.
21 Posted by tom older on 27 Oct, 2014 09:50 PM
The only way I find I can watch youtube properly with TenFourFoix on my Mac G4 iBook is to install the Firefox addon YouView at http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/30342/youview
Works fine, smooth YouTube on my nine year old computer now.