tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:/discussions/problems/25-buttons-not-working-download-playTenFourFox: Discussion 2012-03-02T01:23:24Ztag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-03T22:01:21Z2012-02-03T22:01:22Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Hi,<br>
on soundcloud the play buttons do not appear to work. also clicking
on a download link gets no response, I have to right click and save
target as. This happens on a number of sites.</p>
<p>G4 1.25 PPC 10.4.11 TENFOURFOX 10.0</p></div>Ashley Whitemantag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-03T22:05:36Z2012-02-03T22:05:36Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>If these sites use Flash or other plugins (and I believe
Soundcloud does), plugins are not supported in TenFourFox. You will
need to use a different browser for those sites.</p></div>Cameron Kaisertag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-04T00:20:49Z2012-02-04T00:20:49Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Thanks. The downloads are just regular sites? I take your point
on TENFour and Flash!</p></div>Ashley Whitemantag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-04T12:08:57Z2012-02-04T12:08:57Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Can you please provide a screenshot or link to the affected
site?</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-04T22:22:04Z2012-02-04T22:22:05Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>soundcloud.com</p>
<p>pouet.net</p>
<p>soundcloud works under Safari... I have just had a number of
random crashes from both Safari (5) and TenFour (1) ( Number of
crashes )</p></div>Ashley Whitemantag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T01:41:53Z2012-02-05T01:41:53Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>soundcloud.com does not work on my machine. Same symptoms.<br>
G3 300 PPC 10.4.11 TenFourFox 10</p>
<p>soundcloud.com does work (after a lot of lag and what I thought
would freeze) in safari.<br>
G3 300 PPC 10.4.11 Safari 4.1.3</p>
<p>soundcloud.com is broken in FireFox 10 on my Ubuntu Linux box.
Same symptoms.<br>
Pentium 4 2.8GHz HT, Ubuntu 11.04</p>
<p>soundcloud.com does work in Chromium 16.<br>
Pentium 4 2.8GHz HT, Ubuntu 11.04</p>
<p>Cameron, based on this, it appears to be an upstream?</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T03:13:45Z2012-02-05T03:13:45Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Further Testing:</p>
<p>The issue is still present in TFF 10, even with plugins enabled
and the newest PPC Tiger flash. The problem does occur in Safari
4.1.3 with plugins disabled.</p>
<p>So, it appears we have two issues.<br>
A. Some sort of issue native to FireFox.<br>
B. The site requires plugins.</p>
<p>Recap:<br>
G3 300 PPC 10.4.11<br>
TFF 10 (Plugins Disabled): Broken<br>
TFF 10 (Plugins Enabled): Broken</p>
<p>Camino 2.1 (Plugins Disabled): Broken<br>
Camino 2.1 (Plugins Enabled): Broken</p>
<p>Safari 4.1.3 (Plugins Disabled): Broken<br>
Safari 4.1.3 (Plugins Enabled): OK</p>
<p>Pentium 4, Ubuntu 11.04<br>
FireFox 10 (Plugins Disabled): Broken<br>
FireFox 10 (Plugins Enabled): Broken</p>
<p>Chromium 16 (Plugins Disabled): Broken<br>
Chromium 16 (Plugins Enabled): OK</p>
<p>So, it needs flash and it doesn't like Gecko.</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T03:18:59Z2012-02-05T03:18:59Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Theo, thanks for the detailed test -- I'll take your word for it
since it appears to need a Facebook login and I'm a long-time
Facebook boycotter. Given your report, yes, this looks like
Soundcloud not playing nice (in addition to the Flash problem).</p>
<p>Ashley, you may wish to notify the site as a user (tell them you
are using Firefox -- they may simply say you are "unsupported" if
you tell them you are using TenFourFox, even though TenFourFox is
almost identical). But this doesn't appear to be an issue we can
fix based on these tests. You could use Safari in the meantime.</p>
<p>I'll leave this open for a bit in case more information comes to
light.</p></div>Cameron Kaisertag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T10:12:41Z2012-02-05T10:12:41Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Theo & Ashley, please check if you have Flashblock
installed. It appears to interfere with Soundcloud. If I disable
the add-on completely in the Add-ons Manager, the play button in
Soundcloud does work with TFF 10.0 (proof: screenshot).</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T13:37:31Z2012-02-05T13:37:31Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>I am using flashblock on both of my platforms.</p>
<p>After disabling flashblock and with flash enabled, it plays in
FireFox 10.<br>
Pentium 4 2.8GHz HT, Ubuntu 11.04</p>
<p>After disabling flashblock with flash enabled, it plays in TFF
10. (It also now plays with no stutter, even on my uber low power
test system and all comments show properly, so GO US!)<br>
G3 300 PPC 10.4.11 TenFourFox 10</p>
<p>However, I am not using flashblock (or any other add-ons) with
Camino, so that appears to be an actual incompatibility.</p>
<p>Soundcloud also has an HTML 5 opt-in program like youtube, but
apparently it only works in Safari or Chrome. I tried in Chromium
16 and the HTML 5 audio does not work with <strong>or</strong>
without plugins enabled.</p>
<p>So, unless we can get the HTML 5 audio to work, this falls under
"Needs Plugins", which falls under, "Use at your own risk".</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T13:49:50Z2012-02-05T13:49:50Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Further Testing:</p>
<p>Safari 4.1.3 HTML 5 Audio Enabled (Plugins Disabled): OK<br>
Safari 4.1.3 HTML 5 Audio Enabled (Plugins Enabled): OK</p>
<p>Why it works in an old version of Safari, but not in the newest
Chromium, I couldn't tell you. I will do some user agent playing
and see if spoofing FF/TFF 10 as Safari 4.1.3 gets it to work with
no plugins. (I am assuming FireFox 10's HTML 5 is at least as good
[if not better] than Safari 4.1.3)</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T16:04:35Z2012-02-05T16:04:36Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>h.264 support?</p></div>Guesttag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T17:26:27Z2012-02-05T17:26:27Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>See Pictures:</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T17:40:45Z2012-02-05T17:43:31Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>I haven't used Camino in ages, but I seem to remember that it
has its own flashblocker implemented that's probably sort-of
related to the Firefox add-on.</p>
<p>And yes, missing H.264 support may be the reason why
Soundcloud's HTML5 feature only works in some browsers.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T18:18:45Z2012-02-05T18:21:09Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Ashley, I apologise for the cryptic answers, but it appears we
now have a verdict.</p>
<p>Problem:<br>
Standard soundcloud.com uses flash. Flash is a plug-in and is not
supported in TFF. The site itself is also incompatible with the
flashblock extension.</p>
<p>Ok, so if flash won't work, then use HTML 5? Well, HTML 5 has
two main sets of codecs, h.264 and WebM. Safari and Chrome support
h.264 whereas TFF supports WebM. The HTML 5 opt-in on
soundcloud.com appears to only provide h.264 making TFF unable to
utilize it.</p>
<p>Solutions:<br>
A. Use Safari and use the standard flash version of soundcloud.
Nice and Easy.<br>
B. Use Safari and use the HTML 5 opt-in on soundcloud. Nice and
Easy and allows you to disable plug-ins in Safari if you so
wish.</p>
<p>C. Use TFF with the following Modifications:<br>
Disable flashblock if you use it.<br>
Enable the hidden plugin mode in TFF.</p>
<p>The latter has far reaching consequences and I defer to a
previous post by Chris to explain:</p>
<p>"Flash is a plugin, and plugins are no longer supported in
TenFourFox. Since most plugins are now unsupported by their vendors
on the PowerPC platform and don't receive updates anymore, they're
a security risk, and they don't work right anymore in many
circumstances, causing crashes and other unexpected behavior.
Therefore, they're switched off by default.</p>
<p>If you absolutely require Flash and other plugins, you can use
Camino, OmniWeb or Safari. You can also switch plugins back on in
TenFourFox (see <a href=
"http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported">
http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported</a>).
<strong>Note that this mode is unsupported.</strong>"</p>
<p>I reiterate <strong>Note that this mode is unsupported.</strong>
If you choose to re-enable plugins, please be aware that flash is
not the only outdated plugin you are likely to re-enable.</p></div>theos911tag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-02-05T18:59:45Z2012-02-05T18:59:46Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>Many thanks!</p>
<p>I'll have a look at how 'the unsupported mode' works. Currently
I have been running both browsers.</p>
<p>Facebook video doesn't work under Safari 4.13<br>
Youtube video, gives me a 'TFF' does not support! then plays the
video's I think I enabled the HTML5 playing. I now have also
enabled the HTML5 in Soundcloud.</p>
<p>I think I am as up to date on things as I can be on a PPC
machine :)</p>
<p>Still things are a little sluggish in both browsers! for
reference my machine is</p>
<p>Apple Mac G4 Dual 1.25 PPC / 2Gb Ram - Echo Gina24 Audio and I
am running TFF 10.0 (7450) and Safari 4.1.3</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Ashley</p>
<p>soundcloud.com/nativ-1 ;)</p></div>Ashley Whitemantag:tenfourfox.tenderapp.com,2012-01-07:Comment/134244522012-03-02T01:23:23Z2012-03-02T01:23:23Zbuttons not working ( download / play )<div><p>If there are any more remarks, feel free to re-open the
discussion.</p></div>Chris (chtrusch)